zaero says:
hey john
zaero says:
http://radio.weblogs.com/0105852/2002/07/13.html#a692
John says:
yeah. It sounds like a neat idea to have a GUI for building your p2p apps.
But the commercial part of groove is really unappealling
John says:
As an enterprise software vendor in their infancy, they can't afford to do
volume deals or sell to the unwashed masses. Their strategy is : throw the
nifty widget layout tools at developers
John says:
let them build something neat
John says:
and get them to fork over $20K
zaero says:
do you think the tools are worth something?
John says:
I'll be they are, but the server infrastructure pieces of groove are in a
state of perpetual beta
John says:
i think the MS investment had something to do with it
John says:
With this VSIP cruft, they now are truly an outsourced R&D lab for MS
John says:
cross-platform be damned
zaero says:
what about REBOL? where are they now?
zaero says:
have they gone under yet?
John says:
the mailing list is active, and they keep rev'ing the platform
John says:
but I think strategy-wise they struck out so big with the Morpheus bet
John says:
they probably lost a year of labor/billables on that snafu
zaero says:
too bad they got involved with crooks
zaero says:
but it seems it's hard to avoid crooks nowadays
John says:
i think rebol/express woudl be a neat, very secure way to move around the
300Meg files
John says:
there are some arguments against using it (first and foremost, partnering
w/smallCo on the rocks)
John says:
but an easy to deploy, lightweight, x-platform distributed file system is
still something to appreciate
zaero says:
yeah
zaero says:
what is their price structure?
zaero says:
has anyone used it to deploy anything?
John says:
they've done some custom engagements at a few bigCo's, probably mostly
proof-of-concept
John says:
I haven't seen any public client announcements lately
John says:
i think rebol is ~$200/client
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